So Players 30, 40, & 50 Years Ago Finished The Season…

They are eventually going to die on the vine. When a school like OSU only sells 7,500 tickets to the cotton bowl or you have an empty upper deck for Clemson/Kentucky in Jax, those games aren’t going to last long. CFP says that those games don’t matter, and fans (particularly of big schools that have annual playoff aspirations) are seeing them that way.

They will feel even more meaningless with an expanded playoff. Zero bowl games involving top 10 teams.

And for other ranked teams, many of them will have had legitimate hopes at making the playoffs so a "normal" bowl will be much more of a letdown than it is now.
 
They are eventually going to die on the vine. When a school like OSU only sells 7,500 tickets to the cotton bowl or you have an empty upper deck for Clemson/Kentucky in Jax, those games aren’t going to last long. CFP says that those games don’t matter, and fans (particularly of big schools that have annual playoff aspirations) are seeing them that way.

This is why the eventual next move will be to expand the CFP beyond 12 to 24 or 32. That will be the only way to keep kids short of having the Corporations and/or NFL teams sponsoring NIL collectives and buying expensive insurance policies on kids/teams they have already purchased via NIL.
 
The NCAA has been pretty much neutered in all this NIL/portal stuff; so I don't know why you are blaming them. The Playoff Committee demonstrated to anyone paying attention that this is all rigged. It is much like professional wrestling, the games may be fun to watch; but deep down you know it is fake. The much ballyhooed FSU vs. UGA game today won't be worth watching based on the opt outs and FSU's attitude going into the game. Supporting your school/teammates is a silly notion since you don't even know who your teammates will be until after the portal closes, heck you don't even know for sure who your coach will be.
Therein lies the problem … we need a reset in college football.
 
At this point, I think bowls just need to go. What’s the point of playing them when so many key players are just going to quit on their teams before the game? If CFB society really places that little emphasis on the games, then maybe they aren’t worth playing.
That’s ashame … bowl season used to be really fun. I remember how excited everybody was when Tech got invited to a bowl game in 1970 for the first time since Dodd’s last year. It was a great time … too bad we’ve lost that culture.
 
That’s ashame … bowl season used to be really fun. I remember how excited everybody was when Tech got invited to a bowl game in 1970 for the first time since Dodd’s last year. It was a great time … too bad we’ve lost that culture.
Our game had a feel of excitement to it. At least for our side. But it did not attract anyone who was not attached to either team.
 
Won’t fault anyone for sitting out a meaningless game, especially if their future could be impacted by injury
So just play conference games and let that be it. Why have Tech & Ole Miss play each other, just get the season over with so the small percentage can showcase their talent and go pro asap. Screw tradition, enjoyment, team comradery, etc … Gee wheez
 
Our game had a feel of excitement to it. At least for our side. But it did not attract anyone who was not attached to either team.
That’s ok … I believe the Tech team and fans had a really good time participating in that meaningless game . Bowl games also match up different conferences against each other … I was rooting like crazy for Clemson yesterday.
 
This is why the eventual next move will be to expand the CFP beyond 12 to 24 or 32. That will be the only way to keep kids short of having the Corporations and/or NFL teams sponsoring NIL collectives and buying expensive insurance policies on kids/teams they have already purchased via NIL.
Exactly. The bowls will be replaced by playoff games. Whether or not high end players on the #22 team play in them is to be determined but at least the games will matter for a goal. I enjoyed the heck out of Tampa and watching our team but we all knew that game meant nothing. When we were down early none of us had that same gut feeling of angst like when we were down to UNC. It’s because we all knew that game wasn’t nearly as important as the UNC game. Bottom line is college football is awesome but it’s been run by a mafia style organization for decades which controlled the bowls and rule enforcement and did both unevenly. While it took 60 years to finally implement a playoff system and send the corrupt bowl system to the dustbin of history we are finally on the cusp of a quasi fair system. When it expands into the 20’s and beyond the little guy will finally have a chance during those 1 in 20 years it all comes together.
 
Half the players from 30. 40, and 50 years ago were brain damaged before they ever saw a football. Go back and listen to some the interviews from back then, I doubt some of them could read on an 8th grade level. Being a football player at a major college was the high point of their life for many of them.
Ahem, I take exception to this broadbrush generalization.

We had a few in their 13th or 14th quarters at NATS - RSrs - who either weren't going to get between the white lines except during warmups or had had a snoot full of Bud Carson and opted to sit out the 1970 Sun Bowl or the 1971 Peach Bowl. And there were also one or two starters among them.

Usually they had just "gotten out" & didn't want to hang around the campus any longer as Christmas approached, wanted to get on with their lives, get married, or start their new jobs. They had hung around to get their degrees, played their assigned roles on the team, then moved on with their lives.

I get your point, and I certainly know a few from some of the surrounding SEC campuses who fit your profile, but bee careful with such.
 
That’s a shame … bowl season used to be really fun. I remember how excited everybody was when Tech got invited to a bowl game in 1970 for the first time since Dodd’s last year. It was a great time … too bad we’ve lost that culture.
That was also an era where there were only a dozen or so bowls and 2 or 3 (Tangerine, Camellia, etc.) of those were for so-called D-1A or "Small Colleges"..... getting to a Gator, Liberty, Sun, Bluebonnet, Peach, e.g., was obviously not as big as Rose, Cotton, Sugar or Orange, but it was additional exposure & revenue for NATS.

We were certainly excited as a team to go to the Sun Bowl.... the Peach not so much.:crapstorm:
 
Here is one reason why it's sorry to bail on your team to me. For a lot of your teammates who aren't pro caliber, that bowl game is going to be the pinnacle, or at least a high point, of their football careers. By quitting and costing them the game, you are taking away an accomplishment they worked toward. In the future when they look back on their college football days, rather than have a triumph to be proud of, they will just have a let-down loss they didn't deserve.
 
The NCAA has been pretty much neutered in all this NIL/portal stuff; so I don't know why you are blaming them. The Playoff Committee demonstrated to anyone paying attention that this is all rigged. It is much like professional wrestling, the games may be fun to watch; but deep down you know it is fake. The much ballyhooed FSU vs. UGA game today won't be worth watching based on the opt outs and FSU's attitude going into the game. Supporting your school/teammates is a silly notion since you don't even know who your teammates will be until after the portal closes, heck you don't even know for sure who your coach will be.
Great point and I’m going to use it when I have to deal with dwags: “You won two titles during the pro wrestling era of college football. No one respects your Fake Titles. But thank you for the pizza.”
 
As long as Marvin Harrison Jr is alive 4 months from now, he'll make millions. Risking that for a pointless bowl game would've been an asinine decision. I'm sure his teammates understood and no NFL team will hold it against him.
 
The NCAA has been pretty much neutered in all this NIL/portal stuff; so I don't know why you are blaming them.
The state of NIL and the Transfer Portal is all the NCAA’s fault, that’s why. Had the NCAA implemented gate revenue sharing with the players even 5 years ago as CFB evolved into a billion dollar industry where HC’s are making $10+ million a year and AD’s are making millions, then P5 football wouldn’t be in the mess it’s in. Instead the NCAA relied on the Supreme Court to back them and instead the Supreme Court correctly blamed the NCAA and pretty much rendering the NCAA powerless.

NIL is here for good. The Transfer Portal can be fixed once the remaining P4 conferences eliminate the NCAA as the governing body and implement their own commissioner. Next should be:

1. Eliminate the stupidity known as APR. How this makes any sense now is a complete joke.
2. Setup Portal guardrails. Kids can enter at any time, but only between a certain designated time period once a year can they transfer.
3. Create guaranteed scholarships that both the player and school agree to and sign. Whether that’s 1, 2, 3, or 4 year which includes healthcare. This would help slow down the Portal nonsense.
4. Setup a team “salary cap” per se, where gate revenue is distributed evenly to the players on the team.

The gate revenue share doesn't have anything to do with NIL. NIL is not the kids fault businesses want to pay them. Good on the kids. Anyone who is upset about NIL needs to look at it from the players point of view.
 
As long as Marvin Harrison Jr is alive 4 months from now, he'll make millions. Risking that for a pointless bowl game would've been an asinine decision. I'm sure his teammates understood and no NFL team will hold it against him.
So I guess the players from yesteryear that were going to be high NFL draft choices but competed with their team to the very end were stupid.
 
The state of NIL and the Transfer Portal is all the NCAA’s fault, that’s why. Had the NCAA implemented gate revenue sharing with the players even 5 years ago as CFB evolved into a billion dollar industry where HC’s are making $10+ million a year and AD’s are making millions, then P5 football wouldn’t be in the mess it’s in. Instead the NCAA relied on the Supreme Court to back them and instead the Supreme Court correctly blamed the NCAA and pretty much rendering the NCAA powerless.

NIL is here for good. The Transfer Portal can be fixed once the remaining P4 conferences eliminate the NCAA as the governing body and implement their own commissioner. Next should be:

1. Eliminate the stupidity known as APR. How this makes any sense now is a complete joke.
2. Setup Portal guardrails. Kids can enter at any time, but only between a certain designated time period once a year can they transfer.
3. Create guaranteed scholarships that both the player and school agree to and sign. Whether that’s 1, 2, 3, or 4 year which includes healthcare. This would help slow down the Portal nonsense.
4. Setup a team “salary cap” per se, where gate revenue is distributed evenly to the players on the team.

The gate revenue share doesn't have anything to do with NIL. NIL is not the kids fault businesses want to pay them. Good on the kids. Anyone who is upset about NIL needs to look at it from the players point of view.

To kind of add on top of it or maybe just rephrase, a lot of what is being viewed as selfish for the current players is kind of just a backlash at how much the coaches and NCAA held the reins and money for so long. We're basically in the "find out" era of CFB after a length "öööö around" era.

To dog pile on the APR thing, incredibly stupid and a measure that actively discourages taking any sort of degree with academic rigor. The NIL/Supreme court thing may of been the full on external neutering of the NCAA, but the UNC academic thing was them pulling their own god damn fangs out.
 
So I guess the players from yesteryear that were going to be high NFL draft choices but competed with their team to the very end were stupid.
The system/setup has evolved to make such things stupid. In yesteryear the potential earning loss was likely less severe and further those players likely had less information readily available to know so.
 
So I guess the players from yesteryear that were going to be high NFL draft choices but competed with their team to the very end were stupid.

I don't know if stupid is the right word. It's just not a smart financial decision. There's so much more money in both college football and the pros these days that everything is motivated by it.

When administrators are destroying hundred year old traditions and coaches are bailing on their teams before bowl games in order to get big paydays, it's not a surprise that players start to do the same thing. People tend to follow the example of those above them.
 
I don't know if stupid is the right word. It's just not a smart financial decision. There's so much more money in both college football and the pros these days that everything is motivated by it.

When administrators are destroying hundred year old traditions and coaches are bailing on players before bowl games in order to get big paydays, it's not a surprise that players start to do the same thing. People tend to follow the example of those above them.
To kind of highlight ill-conceived notions here like with the portal timing, nowadays coaches likely Have to bail on players before bowl games cause with when the portal opens a school would be insane to wait on a new head coach arriving for after the bowl game. It's like they looked at what was a ööööty situation occurring due to selfish reasons and make it so the ööööty situation would occur more but at least for less selfish reasons.
 
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