Wanna talk about the chop block?

[BuzzCzar]

Originally Posted by ncjacket

No, the rule is pretty clear and it's high and low.

i thought that they changed it to be that it means engaging a player that is already engaged, regardless of whether high/high, low/low, or high/low; this makes the penalty much easier to call and to avoid (as a player)

[refrigeratormover]

bItch davis did a good job telling the refs to look for it so you knew it was going to happen.

[Allen Koholic]

I finally figured out why you guys can't see the penalty. You were watching the play. Remember, no ACC ref does that. Keep that in mind, and you should be able to see it.

[ASimPerson]

Originally Posted by BuzzCzar

i thought that they changed it to be that it means engaging a player that is already engaged, regardless of whether high/high, low/low, or high/low; this makes the penalty much easier to call and to avoid (as a player)

No, then otherwise double-teaming would be illegal.

The rule was changed this year, but it was just to make it more clear that anyone who is already engaged high or low and then is engaged low or high is being chop blocked.

[BuzzCzar]

Originally Posted by Allen Koholic

I finally figured out why you guys can't see the penalty. You were watching the play. Remember, no ACC ref does that. Keep that in mind, and you should be able to see it.

is this direct from the ACC Refereeing Manual? i ask because the Basketball refs seem to have the same policy

[stinger78]

Originally Posted by ncjacket

No, the rule is pretty clear and it's high and low.

There's also an illegal block if you are lined up outside the tackles and block below the waist back toward the ball. If it's a WR, it's a crack-back, but if it's not, it may also be referred to as a chop. I can't remember exactly, so I may be a bit misinformed. Anyway, in that case, the block would have had to be committed by a WR or A-back. Who was fingered for the foul? If it was an OL it had to be seen as a high-low block, which would be pretty easy to see.

[Allen Koholic]

Originally Posted by BuzzCzar

is this direct from the ACC Refereeing Manual? i ask because the Basketball refs seem to have the same policy

Yes, it's in the section right after the one giving all the calls to Duke. I forget the number.

I am thinking about starting an online petition asking for SEC refs to be used in the UGA game this year. At least we can pay them off.

[midatlantech]

Originally Posted by Allen Koholic

Yes, it's in the section right after the one giving all the calls to Duke. I forget the number.

I am thinking about starting an online petition asking for SEC refs to be used in the UGA game this year. At least we can pay them off.

Remember that the SEC refs were "forced" to change their ways because of outside pressure from UGA. UGA howled and screamed after Jasper Sanks fumble even though the SEC refs at the game were following their own conference's instructions. The SEC refs were threatened after that game and they are "in line" today. I wouldn't want them over anything.

[texstinger]

Doesn't anybody remember Wes saying at the very beginning of the year that the acc refs were a disgrace, and it was known nationally? Or WTTE?

Nothing has changed. And I hope it does not hurt or abilities to keep a great coach here.

swafford and the ncmafia are a bunch of aholes.

[ncjacket]

Originally Posted by stinger78

There's also an illegal block if you are lined up outside the tackles and block below the waist back toward the ball. If it's a WR, it's a crack-back, but if it's not, it may also be referred to as a chop. I can't remember exactly, so I may be a bit misinformed. Anyway, in that case, the block would have had to be committed by a WR or A-back. Who was fingered for the foul? If it was an OL it had to be seen as a high-low block, which would be pretty easy to see.

It's illegal for someone not at the LOS to block below the waste if they are blocking back towards the ball, or some such description. Not sure exactly what they call it but don't think it's a chop.