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Old 11-10-2008, 12:51 PM   #1
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I'm not the run of the mill blame the refs guy, nor do I think all refs always suck. However, I rewound that play where chop block was called several times and was mystified. I saw our OL fire out low, which happens every play. That's not a chop block. A chop block is when a player is engaged high and another player takes the legs out. I didn't see it anywhere. Did you?

That really was a huge call because Tech was chewing up chunks of yardage and if Tech scores on that drive it changes everything.
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Old 11-10-2008, 12:56 PM   #2
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I'm not the run of the mill blame the refs guy, nor do I think all refs always suck. However, I rewound that play where chop block was called several times and was mystified. I saw our OL fire out low, which happens every play. That's not a chop block. A chop block is when a player is engaged high and another player takes the legs out. I didn't see it anywhere. Did you?

That really was a huge call because Tech was chewing up chunks of yardage and if Tech scores on that drive it changes everything.
I haven't rewatched the play but I think the rule can be interpreted that a cut block to an already engaged defender (regardless of high or low) can be called a chop block.
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Old 11-10-2008, 01:28 PM   #3
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CPJ was giving the ref an earful after that call. Lots of &*)@#$ before he said something to the effect of that was not a chop block. He was ticked. CPJ is pretty good at blaming the right person on a call. If it's his player, then he will get in their face and he does the same for a ref.
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Old 11-10-2008, 01:56 PM   #4
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Kirbee, I'm not sure I would know a chop block if it came up and bit me on the arse, but I will say this: a good case could be made for that being the single biggest play of the game. At least as far as a momentum killer. We were really rolling before that play, if I remember correctly, and we didn't do much right for the rest of the game after that call. No telling how much difference it would have made if that call isn't made.
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Old 11-10-2008, 02:16 PM   #5
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At the touchdown club today CPJ said he was still looking for that chop block on the tape. He said the refs were yapping about it before the game so he knew they were going to call it - just a matter of when.

He said that call was one of the two biggest turning points in the game. The other of course being the fumbled punt.
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Old 11-10-2008, 02:29 PM   #6
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At that exact point, I wrote here (during the game) that the North Carolina Conference Refs just went into action. They make that call just as Tech is starting to show some strength. Amazing.
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Old 11-10-2008, 02:29 PM   #7
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On the next play the refs called a holding and Dwyer was hit 10 yards out of bounds at the end of the play. He was so far out of bounds that he was past the white out of bounds area when he was hit. That holding call should have been offset by the out of bounds hit.
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Old 11-10-2008, 03:34 PM   #8
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At the touchdown club today CPJ said he was still looking for that chop block on the tape. He said the refs were yapping about it before the game so he knew they were going to call it - just a matter of when.

He said that call was one of the two biggest turning points in the game. The other of course being the fumbled punt.
Yeah, that's what I thought.

Can we get some refs to maybe yap about the holding against our DL then? I'm guessing Derrick Morgan probably has a permanent mark around his neck from all the hooking he gets.

Off topic: Who's going to return punts now? Any know if there are any Rhino's anywhere with eligibility?
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Old 11-10-2008, 04:25 PM   #9
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I haven't rewatched the play but I think the rule can be interpreted that a cut block to an already engaged defender (regardless of high or low) can be called a chop block.
No, the rule is pretty clear and it's high and low.
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Old 11-10-2008, 04:39 PM   #10
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No, the rule is pretty clear and it's high and low.
i thought that they changed it to be that it means engaging a player that is already engaged, regardless of whether high/high, low/low, or high/low; this makes the penalty much easier to call and to avoid (as a player)
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